Appendix-What Is It Good For?
How does The Crucible "Appendix" that we read impact your thematic understanding of the drama and its two primary characters- John and Abigail?
posted by Greg T at Wednesday, October 10, 2007
posted by Greg T at Wednesday, October 10, 2007
29 Comments:
The Appendix from The Crucible we read today was obviously not a vital part of the story; otherwise it wouldn't be in the appendix. However, it does show some more insight into the feelings Abigail and John have for each other - underneath it all they do still like each other and want to cooperate. Abigail wants to get back together, and wants John to also want that, but John want Abigail to help him free Elizabeth. They have different needs, but both want to cooperate.
It also shows that John wants to be a good man by warning Abigail about what he wants to do and what he wants Mary Warren to do against Abigail. So, by no means is he a heartless man.
The appendix for act 2 scene 2 was actually an essential part to reading the crucible. Without that information, we wouldn't have known if John had actually gone and talked to Abigail. From what we read, we know that John wants help to free his wife and the only person that is able to help him would be Abigail, since she is the one who accused her in the first place. Like Sara said, they have different needs but they both want to cooperate and be able to do what both of them need to get done.
Although the Appendix for The crucible gave us an inside look of yet another confrontation between John and Abigail, it is not very important/essential to the story.
It was helpful, on the other hand, to see that John has concern for his wife and wants to free her. Also, the fact that John does not care if Abby will be charged or punished for her consequences. It just makes me wonder what limitations John and Abby may take when they are in court.
I believe that the appendix was actually a vital part to the play. You get to see two deeper sides of abigale and John. Not only that but you really get a look into abigales head, it shows how "mad" she's really become, she is held under the delusion that John will come back to her if she is able to get his wife hung. She is so driven that she has become blind with power, as if she herself is beggining to believe all the tales of witchcraft. Abigals is become a real pawn in her own make believe story.
I felt that the appendix was very beneficial for allowing us to get a better understanding of the play and two of the main characters. We learn that Abigail is insane and that her dream of having a realtionship with Proctor is nothing but a dream. We also learn that dispite the mistakes John has made he is willing to fess up to what he did with Abigail if it will save his wife. It becomes apparent that John does love his wife very much.
The appendix is a critical part of the story to help us understand the relationship between Abigail and John Proctor. John shows his love and respect for his wife and we learn that he wants to help her. He also cares for Abigail as a human and wants to help her but needs her assistance in freeing Elizabeth.
The Appendix from The Crucible, act 2 scene 2, I believe could have been left out but I'm glad that we read it. To me it shows the true emotions of the two lost lovers and it really brings out their true character. Like the quotes above John and Abigail both want different things and both want to get those things in a peaceful mature way. Abigail portrays herself in my point of view as crazy. She wants John so much she is willing to hurt innocent people and that is not right, she sounds like she has been going insane. John is not a bad guy and is trying hard so no one gets hurt. I feel bad that John has to deal with a crazy person.
The Appendix that we read in class helped me clear up a few things about what happened between them and why they act the way they do around each other. It also gave some more incite to what is happing with the witchcraft things and how it is real or just a joke. It showed you some other things that where important to the story so far. Reading this piece was helpful by the ways it showed Abby and John and how they act.
I believe thet that appendix reading was not an important part of the play. why i think the is if it was they would have left it with the rest of the play instead of making it a side note. yet with out that information that Jonh and Abby went and talked we would not know how the two really feel aboout the issue that is going on.
Nothing I repeat nothing should ever be taken out of any work the fact that that scene was taken out isn't right. Removing a scene from a book is like banning a book because of content becuase some books on the the ban list is just messed up. So in my eyes that scene is vitial to the play. The scene adds alot to it and realy helps you to get in to the characters.
I believe that the appendix from The Crucible, that we read in class today, was not necessarily a vital part of the story, but it did show some of the feelings Abigail and John have for each other that we didn't get to see in the story its self.
It was helpful to see how John was standing up and cared for his wife and also to see how Abigail does, in fact, want to be his wife.
I think the appendix of the Crucible is not needed at all. That is why it is not in the book because it is not that inportant. All the appendix showed us was that procter wants his wife back and gave us some inside knowledge on there relationship,
The Apendix I think is a useful tool that we can use if we would like to find more information on book. Like in The Crucible it gave us a little bit of information that we did not know. It showed John Proctor asking Abigail to help him free Elizabeth.
In my oppinion, the appendix was not neded, but not completely worthless. If it was necessary, it would have been included in the book, however, it does provide valuable insight on john and abigail's relationship.
Just because the appendix for act 2 scene 2 was separated out from the rest of the story, doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a vital part of the play. If it wasn't, then it never would have been in there in the first place.
I think it gave us a better idea of John and Abigail's relationship and how they really feel about each other.
The appendix from The Crucible was important in a sense because it showed some of John and Abigails feelings for eachtother. It showed how they still have some feelings for each other and how they're still willing to cooperate with eachother. John wants to free Elizabeth and at the same time Abigail wants to be with him instead of him being with Elizabeth. I believe this scene brings out there true characters and how they felt about eachother in past relations so i think it was important to have read this part so we can get backround information on them.
I think that reading the part of Abigail was particularly helpful in understanding the relationship because it forced me to really dig deep into the text, having had to pay close attention and read all parts, not just sections when it sounded interesting. The appendix was an essential part to the crucible that should not have been removed from the textbook literature
I agree with what looks like, most of the class, that the scene was not necessary to the rest of the play. Sure it gave us yet another inside look upon Proctor vs. Abigail, but we've already seen that in this play. I found the scene to be a redundancy. HOWEVER, i do not think it was the business of whoever took the scene out to do so. Arthur Miller was the author, so he, and only he, has the right to remove, add, or splice scenes from this piece. I think that Arthur Miller is quite qualified to determine whether a scene is necesarry, in his own play for that matter! I found it quite offending when i saw that someone else had removed the scene from the original text. Of course, he used some title "professor of theatre and graduate of _____ theatre school" something or other, to try to justify his removal of the scene. That will be the end of this "essay". Thank you for enduring it.
I don't think that the appendix was a necessary part to the story as a whole. However, I do believe that it does give further insight into both John Proctor and Abigail's character. It added to the dimensions of the characters, and showed more directly some of Abigail’s motives for accusing Elizabeth. It also shows John's moral character put to the test and that he remained steadfast. I don't think however that I would have been absolutely sure he would have without the appendix.
I think that the appendix was helpful in seeing the relationship between John Proctor and Abby. Abby still wants to be with John but he is trying to be a good husband and stay faithful. Abby is just being a temptress and trying to lead John astray, but I think that ship has already sailed. Abby needs to realize that, and John should just cut out contact with Abby and stay faithful to his wife.
The Appendix was very important i think to be able to understand the feelings of John and Abigail. He is really wanting to free his wife so he went to speak with Abigail and underneath everything we found out they still like eachother but John has more important issues.
I felt that the Appendix we read did impact my understanding of the drma between Abigail and John it helped show that John had feelings for Abigail still but he loves his wife and will not betray her. So in doing this he will do what ever it takes to protect her
The appendix brings to light the underlying currents of Abigail and John Proctor's relationship. One such current proves the disipaton of John's fear of Abby and what he can do to him. At one point (I am paraphrasing)he says he will drag Abby down with him to save his wife. The appendix also brings to life Abby's fear of losing her reputaion, seems almost more important than withstaining her relationship with John.
The Appendix was kind of important in my opinion. I think it was because it is a key point to understand the real relationship of John and Abigail. At some point in his life he had feelings for Abigail, but that was in his past and he doesn't care for anymore. All he cares about is getting his wife out of the situation shes is in and going on to live a peaceful life. While doing this he also wants to get rid of the people that are making all this drama. When he speaks to Abigail about this he finds that he is disgusted with her but still has something misterious inside of him for her. But he is in somewhat of a denial.
The Appendix, I think could have definitely been omitted but it was nice reading it as kind of a tangent from the main plot. I think it is an appendix in all sense of the word: not really needed, but nice to have.
Also, it reinforces what I already thought about John Proctor, a genuinely good man who has made his fair share of mistakes (and then some) and who is only trying to help people but doesn't always go about it in the right way.
The appendix from the Crucible,act 2, was not that mush of an important part of the story or else it would have been in there, however it was good to find out the truth about jon and abigail and to answer some of those questions that we could of had from the reading.
you can get a couple of themes through out the crucible from these two characters. they go from likeing each other to haveing a really close relationship. a good theme is change is a virtue
I feel the appendix is excellent background information that helps close some of the "holes" in the story where some things may not make sense at the first glance but when you read the appendix it goes back and clears some of the "holes" up for better understanding.
After reading the appendix section, I am confused as to why it was not included in the text. It provides a dark somewhat violent look into the relationship between John Proctor and Abigail. This is almost critical to later understanding the hate and harsh languange that is later used in scene three. It reveals how truly delusional Abigail is in thinking that Proctor still might want to consider being with her after all she has put him through. It also gives us a look at how much Proctor resents Abigail and how much he loves his wife. It is an important part and it should have been left in.
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